Wednesday, 31 July 2013
Tuesday, 30 July 2013
The Committee just do not get it
regardless of where a fence is placed, owners affected will still see the eyesore
What about the rubbish dumped there daily?
What about the smell from the decomposing rubbish?
What about the mixing of dangerous chemicals within a residential compound?
What about the sand being blown into apartments from vehicles accessing the site?
What about the planning permission that was never granted?
When o when will they get that the fence is NOT THE ISSUE......................
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Bring on positive change and open and honest transparency.
Bring on positive change and open and honest transparency.
Monday, 22 July 2013
Workers Compound - a disgrace for the community
A fundamental issue exists regarding the public land
that is being used by the resort gardeners and IRM as a rubbish dump
which was never part of the resort plans or did not ever receive
planning permission.
The issue was first raised in 2009 and the Association has worked with its owners and Resortalia/Committee to progress what had been offically agreed with the Local Authority.
Despite several chasing letters and raising the issue consistently over the last 4 years, the Committee have not subsequently changed their views and decided this is no longer a problem.
Furthermore, the newly elected committee have publicly attacked 2 HRGR Presidents who have raised this issue for continuing to seek resolution to what is not approved or allowed on public land.
The Committee have also started a work to rule as they see this as being unfair to them!
In order to be very clear, this land is public land, has no planning permission to be used for any other purpose than public land and the HRGR Association will fight to ensure that IRM and the gardeners are not allowed to be there.
Posted from: http://hrgrassociation.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/workers-compound-disgrace-for-community.html
The issue was first raised in 2009 and the Association has worked with its owners and Resortalia/Committee to progress what had been offically agreed with the Local Authority.
Despite several chasing letters and raising the issue consistently over the last 4 years, the Committee have not subsequently changed their views and decided this is no longer a problem.
Furthermore, the newly elected committee have publicly attacked 2 HRGR Presidents who have raised this issue for continuing to seek resolution to what is not approved or allowed on public land.
The Committee have also started a work to rule as they see this as being unfair to them!
In order to be very clear, this land is public land, has no planning permission to be used for any other purpose than public land and the HRGR Association will fight to ensure that IRM and the gardeners are not allowed to be there.
Posted from: http://hrgrassociation.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/workers-compound-disgrace-for-community.html
HRGR fundamental issues...........
Since
2008 the HRGR Association have been vocal in raising our views with
great success to date however there are key fundamental issues that
require readdressing:
1. Why did the Phase Presidents in Feb 2013 approve the reappointment of Resortalia and the approval the next year's financials and last years accounts 2 months before the Sub Community AGMs took place? Shouldn't there have been a majority of the sub communities approval beforehand? Was this legal? Do we have to hold the 2013 AGMs again? If it was, why for 2014 is it being changed to afterwards? If this advice is based on legal representation them are the people giving this really aware of what is required?
2. When the Community has one debtor's policy then why has the committee decided that the policy does not apply to our biggest debtor? Can they make that decision or should there have been an EGM to decide this resort wide significantly important matter? Now that the debtor has not paid despite the extra time allowed, then will the Committee follow the defined established debtor policy?
3. Why was the resort Health and Safety Policy changed in May 2013 that has been in existence since 2008? Is there still a risk register? It appears that the following policy statements no longer apply:
- "The presidents will take all reasonable steps to implement and maintain good standards of health, safety and environmental management on our resort."
- "The HRGR owners committee will do everything within their power to ensure that suitable and sufficient risk control measures are put in place and maintained to eliminate or reduce the risks identified on the HRGR risk register."
In terms of "sensible to do a check to see if there were any other high risk issues that we did not know about. As a result of these inherited problems a full audit was done". So going forward are we saying that it is no longer sensible to perform further checks or that previous problems or new associated problems will no longer arise in the future?
What has happened in order for the current committee to decide to change the H&S policy that has been in place since 2008? This is especially important since back in 2008 when the resort was being created, very little was actually owned by the Community of Owners hence its influence would of been very small indeed. Furthermore as the 2009 policy clearly stated "Where the risks identified are not in the HRGR community controlled areas but could affect people on HRGR, we will record these risks and bring them to attention of the appropriate company. At present, this will primarily be Polaris World as they have responsibility for areas such as the proposed town centre and the golf course etc."
So the current May 2013 committee statement is included in the current policy. The only difference we can see is the requirement for an independent H&S advisor which would cost the community money to perform the exercise. Surely we can still afford this?
4. The forum rules allows for free speech and the ability to raise any issues from owners. It has now been decided by the Committee that NO QUESTION can be raised to the committee, about the Committee or the running of the resort on the forum. Is the Committee allowed to do this? As this is a significant medium of communications should there not be an EGM to approve this proposed change? Under what rights is this allowed as it is not under the Spanish Constitution! Furthermore, we understand that an elected President has now been banned from this forum! On whose authority was this decision made to prevent an elected president be able to communicate the issues raised to them for resolution?
1. Why did the Phase Presidents in Feb 2013 approve the reappointment of Resortalia and the approval the next year's financials and last years accounts 2 months before the Sub Community AGMs took place? Shouldn't there have been a majority of the sub communities approval beforehand? Was this legal? Do we have to hold the 2013 AGMs again? If it was, why for 2014 is it being changed to afterwards? If this advice is based on legal representation them are the people giving this really aware of what is required?
2. When the Community has one debtor's policy then why has the committee decided that the policy does not apply to our biggest debtor? Can they make that decision or should there have been an EGM to decide this resort wide significantly important matter? Now that the debtor has not paid despite the extra time allowed, then will the Committee follow the defined established debtor policy?
3. Why was the resort Health and Safety Policy changed in May 2013 that has been in existence since 2008? Is there still a risk register? It appears that the following policy statements no longer apply:
- "The presidents will take all reasonable steps to implement and maintain good standards of health, safety and environmental management on our resort."
- "The HRGR owners committee will do everything within their power to ensure that suitable and sufficient risk control measures are put in place and maintained to eliminate or reduce the risks identified on the HRGR risk register."
In terms of "sensible to do a check to see if there were any other high risk issues that we did not know about. As a result of these inherited problems a full audit was done". So going forward are we saying that it is no longer sensible to perform further checks or that previous problems or new associated problems will no longer arise in the future?
What has happened in order for the current committee to decide to change the H&S policy that has been in place since 2008? This is especially important since back in 2008 when the resort was being created, very little was actually owned by the Community of Owners hence its influence would of been very small indeed. Furthermore as the 2009 policy clearly stated "Where the risks identified are not in the HRGR community controlled areas but could affect people on HRGR, we will record these risks and bring them to attention of the appropriate company. At present, this will primarily be Polaris World as they have responsibility for areas such as the proposed town centre and the golf course etc."
So the current May 2013 committee statement is included in the current policy. The only difference we can see is the requirement for an independent H&S advisor which would cost the community money to perform the exercise. Surely we can still afford this?
4. The forum rules allows for free speech and the ability to raise any issues from owners. It has now been decided by the Committee that NO QUESTION can be raised to the committee, about the Committee or the running of the resort on the forum. Is the Committee allowed to do this? As this is a significant medium of communications should there not be an EGM to approve this proposed change? Under what rights is this allowed as it is not under the Spanish Constitution! Furthermore, we understand that an elected President has now been banned from this forum! On whose authority was this decision made to prevent an elected president be able to communicate the issues raised to them for resolution?
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Sunday, 14 July 2013
3 Years on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
http://t5.sharepoint.com/Pages/2010DecNewsletter.aspx
3 Years on and the same debates. This really needs resolution NOW.
3 Years on and the same debates. This really needs resolution NOW.
Would YOU buy here?
WOULD YOU BUY AN APARTMENT THAT OVERLOOKED THIS?
THE HRGR C0MMITTEE DOES NOT SEE THIS AS AN ISSUE................
THE HRGR C0MMITTEE DOES NOT SEE THIS AS AN ISSUE................
sober thoughts.......
Apology for late involvement, new family taking all my time and
only been fleetingly reviewing via Blackberry (never a good thing), plus
I would have preferred to do this on a private forum. A further small
request Luc, in future pse could you rather bcc all parties, as I have
now done, cc offers welcome opportunities for spam mailers.
However, with an obvious vested interest and with matters getting
rather heated, perhaps I could add my, hopefully sober thoughts to bring
everything into perceptive..well as I see it.
While I agree with what seems to be a majority feeling, the approach could have been a little
more diplomatic, the issues at stake remain the same and should not be
ignored. Luc/Chris, you know you have my support and I thank you for
taking the fight on your shoulders but perhaps a little more tact could
go further, although I fully understand your frustrations as the slow
progress and again, what we perceive to be, the digression of the HGRG
Committee.
Also, although if my fleeting reviews of the emails are correct, to
me the threat of legal action is at this stage merely utilising the
same tactic that the Golf owners, etc are using, namely a tactical
threat to sell out, take action etc. Legal action and the financial
costs associated with such action, are perceived by any normal person
with major concern, hence the numerous emails attempting to remove
themselves from any such action.. Here again, my constructive criticism,
a private forum discussion would have dispelled any thoughts that you
were forcing us into major legal and financial implications. Also the
notice period of a few hours to such an emotive matter is barely enough
to read your email, let alone to consider and offer suggestions,
support etc. May I respectfully suggest, in future sufficient time be
granted before an email that should represent all of us, be sent.
An Owner
I have absolute sympathy for Committee members who in the
circumstances are doing their best for little recognition and in truth, a
voluntary position. But with all due respect, that is no excuse,
you took on the position so deal with the criticism. I am not being
harsh but people, have you every stopped to look at HRGR as you enter
from the highway...it's a citadel on it's own, it needs a full time
professional 'Mayor and town council'., not, albeit well meaning
and good people who are given up there retirement time to help the
community, volunteers. Very much appreciated but guys, we invested in a
'city', to run it properly, will cost a bit more by having
professionals but could solve so much. I have no doubt some of the
committee members, in their professional capacities could very well be
part of the council, who get paid and are held accountable to look after
our interest. However, to respond to criticism by banning an elected
person from discussions, I must respectfully remark, kinda proves my
point.
I think I also read somewhere that Luci was being accused of trying
to hand the golf course to amateurs?...again, emotions have
understandably taken over and the emails have not been read correctly.
From what I understand, that isn't at all what is being said and in
truth I agree with Luci that equally, the HRGR Committee should not be
intimidated by bulling tactics of PW, Banks controlling sections of HGRG
etc.
As far as the workers compound (one of my three pet 'passions', together with gardens and the eroding back hill! ),
has got to a point which really needs to be addressed. I have read and
understand the Presidents seemly logical explanations but none of this
solves the fact, it is a major eye sore (I'm on the the 3rd floor, it
is what I look over and no amount of screening trees will block it's
ugliness or improve the value of my apartment) and a further fact you
cannot ignore, IT WAS NEVER IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS. However, from the
emails, it seems Luci has forced the issue and constructive meetings are
going to take place with STV or whatever the gardening contractors are
called?!
..oh yes, I have another pet 'passion'..the Pigeons?!! Thanks to
Luci, we don't have a major problem anymore but Jim, sorry mate, they
now house with you and when I enquired why a similar blocking off of the
ducts couldn't be done so to once and for all get rid of the health
problem being caused, I was told because you haven't requested it yet??!
Yeah, that's forward thinking.
I have no doubt all of us, especially the volunteers have only HRGR
at heart (I have absolutely no doubt about Chris/Luci motives) but we
would do so much more if we worked together, started accepting the
enormity of the job and maybe considered getting full time professionals
in. Yes it will cost a bit more but at the moment, costs are rising
all the time, so I can't see what we have to lose.
Have a peaceful Sunday.
Sincerely
Options
This is so incorrect.
There are clear options in the formal plans of the resort for IRM to locate its staff and the Committee do know this.
There are clear options in the formal plans of the resort for IRM to locate its staff and the Committee do know this.
Proposed Soutions
As we have previously stated this is a sub community matter first and foremost and although it has impacts on the community, it is not the community directly impacted. The Community of owners does not own this land and does not need to be involved going forward on any proposed solutions.
In terms of your sub community role
then again we need to be very clear that you should not confuse or
impact in any way the directions of the sub communities and overall
community. This is why despite requests to you to not involve the
general community in these matters, you refused and clearly told us that
Resortalia could not do anything until the Resort Committee had reached
an agreed position. At that time on the 17/6/2013 we clearly informed
you that there were a conflict of interests and that you could not
appropriately represent our owners in these matters. I cannot see any
reason for any change to this viewpoint to date.
To be very clear we represent a
number of owners that purchased their apartments off-plan and at that
time including up to when contracts were exchanged/completed, where
there have never any mention of a compound area for workers which we
would directly look at both from the front and rear of our apartments in
some cases.
We are well prepared to seek the
necessary local court injunctions either individually as owners or
collectively as majorities within a number of sub communities. These
matters are clear injustices that have to be corrected immediately.
We believe the workers compound is a
visual eyesore, is a health and safety hazard and materially affects
the valuation of our properties and their rentability.
We have been working very closely
with the HRGR Community of Owners Committees over a number of years
firstly to establish whose land it was and then who had permission to be
on this land and for what approved usage. We
have minuted agenda items on every Tomillo 5 Sub Community AGM and EGM
held over the last 3 years specifically to cover these points. There are
also key actions raised at the HRGR Community of Owners Phase
Presidents meetings
The outcome of all of this work is very clear is that this is local authority land and the current workers compound should not be there. It should be located on the infrastructure areas clearly marked on the resort planning permission maps. We
had hoped to continue the established dialogue with the Committee
however their banning of us rather late in the day after clearly
agreeing a sense of direction in the May 2013 minutes means that no
future dialogue is possible at this time with the Committee. This only
came about as we informed them legally that they held legal positions
within the community and accordingly needed to action the minutes that
they all approved.
If and only if the current ban is
removed and a clear statement made by the committee that they are
prepared to work to correct the current injustices of our owners then we
would be prepared to listen to suggestions from them.
However, in order to move this
position forward, we are as clearly stated directly with IRM and STV in
the emails from us, prepared to work a solution which is beneficial to
our owners as well as the contractors using this facility. This will
then allow the Committee to concentrate on their material matters that
are substantial if the community is to survive.
These measures to be assessed directly with us with the contractors could include:
1. The relocation of the current workers compound
2. The relocation of certain contractors, their tools, vehicles, workshops and rubbish
3. Potential sites within the community and resort that could assist improved health, safety, accommodation and living requirements for the workers within the resort
4. The relocation of the garden and golf course skips
5. The potential improved screening and roof screening of the compound so that it would not be visually from any of our apartments
6. The agreed opening and closing times of the new, existing and relocated compound
7. The noise from these activities
8. The measures to ensure health and safety standards are complied with for the benefit of all workers and all of our owners
9. Measures to reduce the sandy dust blown into our apartments
We would suggest to all contractors
that there are sizable buildings next to the pro-shop in the town
square/centre which could be converted into rest facilities. The car
park is also available all around these facilities and an improved
screen could be erected if required to hold infrastructure, vehicles
etc. In addition, there are two
clear areas within the resort which are earmarked as infrastructure
which could be used straight away especially for the smelling garden and
golf course grass cuttings.
Accordingly, we would prefer to
address Enrique Herrero from IRM and the corresponding general managers
from STV and the other contractors directly on these matters.
I therefore suggest that Jim and I
will send an email to Enrique on Monday outlining the above. I am
prepared to take into account any email input you may want us to
consider in these exchanges however I cannot guarantee that all of this
will be included.
If we do not receive a reply to this
email by midday on Monday, then we will still go ahead and communicate
with Enrique the background to date and our proposed solutions.
Jim and Lucinda
Sub Community President
HRGR Community of Owners
Admnistrators Response
In
our opinion the workers compound affects to all the owners of the
Resort and it´s not an easy question that could be addressed by an owner
or a group of owners because potentially could affect to all the
Resort.
Therefore
and as you may be aware, as Community Administrator of the General
Community that represents to all the owners, including the owners of
your both Subcommunities, we have been in dialogue with Mr. Herrero and
STV on the Last Month, on that dialogue the Presidents of the Resort
and the President of your Phase has had a very active role.
In
the last Committee Meeting was commented that you were threatening
with a legal action to all the members of the Committee and their
President. The reaction to that threat are on the Minutes.
IRM
has proposed a solution that is included on that Minutes and, in
principle, could be acceptable, it´s the same that they were explaining
on the e-mail they sent you.
We
have arranged a meeting in order to obtain more information about it,
but their condition to do it is that all owners, specifically you,
agrees with the proposal and don´t follow your threat of legal action
against IRM, or the Presidents of Phase, etc.
We
have arranged a meeting with Mr. Herrero on our offices next Tuesday
at 10.00, please be so kind to check if the solution would be
acceptable, and if so, let me know if you were interested on joining
the meeting via Skype in order that you personally clarify any doubts
about the solution and their implications.
If you don´t consider that the solution proposed is acceptable, please let us know it as soon as possible.
We personally think that you are talking at cross-purposes with the General Community when both objectives are the same: the benefit of all owners of Hacienda Riquelme, and together we will be able to obtain better results that fighting each other.
Best Regards,
Resortalia
Thanks for the feedback
Thanks to eveyone, we appreciate the feedback, a few fellow owner comments:
Hi
Lucinda, just wanted to say I really appreciate all the hard work that
you have been doing on behalf of us owners. I don’t think there is
anything wrong in ruffling some feathers on occasions, but for your own
sanity and welfare I would just take a deep breath and not get involved
in slanging matches. As I say, 90% of your work/proposals I fully
support, there maybe 10% I don’t but given your commitment to the
buildings I accept that you have the best interests of everyone at heart
and we’re not ever going to agree on everything.
Can I ask before this escalates to a point of no return, you consider if there is a better approach to how we move forward?
As I said you personally have my support for all the hard work you are doing.
An owner
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Lucy well done for taking this stance lets see now how the
committee perform having in effect held the removal of the course to
building site over our heads .
For the first time the committee cannot pull the wool over your eyes .
Hopefully now they will work for the whole community .
Once again congratulations to you both .
AO
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With regards to the statement that HRGR is
not suitable as a holiday resort we have to disagree as we have had a
family now returning with us for the fourth year just for a holiday,
they don't play golf but absolutely love the complex.
Phase President resigns.............
Hi everyone,
As two Sub Community Presidents on Phase 7 have threatened to take legal action against the committee and myself, and one of those Sub Community Presidents has stated the committee are not fit for purpose, I have decided to resign as Phase 7 President as I obviously do not have the support of at least a part of our Phase.
Under these circumstances, I am not prepared to commit huge amounts of my time providing what I believe to be a valuable contribution to our Community.
As two Sub Community Presidents on Phase 7 have threatened to take legal action against the committee and myself, and one of those Sub Community Presidents has stated the committee are not fit for purpose, I have decided to resign as Phase 7 President as I obviously do not have the support of at least a part of our Phase.
Under these circumstances, I am not prepared to commit huge amounts of my time providing what I believe to be a valuable contribution to our Community.
Owners posting criticisms of the committee on publicly
accessible forums /blogs and letting the world see our Community in a
bad light is not something I can see any justification for.
I will ask Resortalia to contact you all to advise what happens next regarding an EGM to elect a replacement for me.
I will ask Resortalia to contact you all to advise what happens next regarding an EGM to elect a replacement for me.
Many thanks to the vast majority of you who have always been very supportive of me, it is appreciated.
Kind regards,
Kind regards,
MC
Censorship of HRGR Forum
Censorship of HRGR Forum
11 July 2013 @ 18:23
11 July 2013 @ 18:23
Regarding
the HRGR.es website forum, it has to be known that the censorship made
on forum discussions, by eliminating for any reason part of or total
posts written by owners under their own name, is prohibited by Law, both
Spanish Constitution AND the European Community Charter of Freedom of
Expression:
About the EC Article regulating our charter of freedom of expression, is the numeral 1, which reads "Article 20. [Freedom of expression]
1. Are recognized and protected rights:
a) To freely express and disseminate thoughts, ideas and opinions by word, writing or any other means of reproduction
b) Production and literary, artistic, scientific and technical information.
c) Academic freedom.
d) To communicate or receive freely truthful information by any media. The law shall regulate the right to the clause of conscience and professional secrecy in the exercise of these freedoms.
2. The exercise of these rights can not be restricted by any form of censorship."
We insist that from now on, this law should be respected and applied by all forum administrators.
In the event that it would happen again, we shall
keep copies of all infringements and hand them over for potential court action.
In conclusion, you have to just put up with the bullying and misinformation of a small group of owners at the resort if you dare to ask any questions or point out something that is not right.
About the EC Article regulating our charter of freedom of expression, is the numeral 1, which reads "Article 20. [Freedom of expression]
1. Are recognized and protected rights:
a) To freely express and disseminate thoughts, ideas and opinions by word, writing or any other means of reproduction
b) Production and literary, artistic, scientific and technical information.
c) Academic freedom.
d) To communicate or receive freely truthful information by any media. The law shall regulate the right to the clause of conscience and professional secrecy in the exercise of these freedoms.
2. The exercise of these rights can not be restricted by any form of censorship."
We insist that from now on, this law should be respected and applied by all forum administrators.
In the event that it would happen again, we shall
keep copies of all infringements and hand them over for potential court action.
In conclusion, you have to just put up with the bullying and misinformation of a small group of owners at the resort if you dare to ask any questions or point out something that is not right.
Phase Presidents Legal Responsibilities
Committee Work to Rule !!!!!!!!!!
At
yesterday’s meeting of the committee we took the unprecedented step of
deciding that we would, in UK terms, work to rule. That is for the
immediate future, we will only perform such duties as are legally
required of us. The alternative option was that the entire committee
considered stepping down but this, it was felt, would be exactly what
the minority are aiming for.
The
cause of this decision is the threat by a small minority of owners to
take legal action against all and individual members of the committee.
This is on top of a continuing barrage of inappropriate e-mails and
postings on various forums which have been insulting, inaccurate and
deeply upsetting. This cannot be allowed to continue as it will make
future recruitment to the committee incredibly difficult as few are
likely to volunteer in the face of such vitriol.
In the short term, the two persons at the heart of this campaign have also been banned from our forum.
The
work to rule will continue until such time as all threats of legal
action against committee members are rescinded, there is a public
apology for the nature of their e-mails and forum postings and a
commitment that their future behaviour will conform to socially
acceptable standards.
In the
meantime, the committee’s work will be restricted to emergency
management and matters covered by the Horizontal Property Act.
Regrettably this means that contacts by owners to committee members will
not garner their usual response so please do not expect correspondence to be answered.
The
committee wish to assure all owners that they continue to have the best
interests of Hacienda Riquelme at heart and look forward to an early
return to normality.
NB
Resort President
Hacienda Riquelme Golf Resort
Notice of Legal Action Feedback
Thank
you for confirmation of receipt of our email, the notice therein
served and the points you raised. We also acknowledge that the notice
served has been sent to all phase presidents, thank you.
We do enact our legal roles as presidents of our sub communities in
which majority discussions and decisions have previously been taken to
enforce the actions so planned although this is not an requirement in
order to readdress the current issues faced by individual owners.
We are instructed that legally there are 87 communities formed and properly registered in the Land Registry Office from Murcia under the Title Deed 3773/05 being 78 Sub Communities, 8 Phases and one for the Community of the Property Complex. Accordingly
we are informed that we need to give legal notice to the title holders
especially for Phase 7 as this is where the compound is located and is
comanaged under this phase legal title. In addition, the legal minutes
of the Community and legal Phase Presidents representation are the
monthly Phase Presidents Meeting minutes and as stated in the May 2013
minutes "none of the contractors have the right to use this area and
that owners would start any necessary legal claim to avoid the
continued use". This statement has full approval of the Phase
Presidents as in the minutes therein issued and there is agreement that
the contractors are engaged on behalf of the owners of the sub
communities and Phases.
We therefore seek implementation of this direction by all of the
Phase Presidents so elected and stated in the May 2013 Phase Presidents
Minutes that the individual representatives of the legal entities
aforementioned to which they all showed their approvals in the May Phase
Presidents Minutes can be enforced.
In summary our actions raised to which we require readdress are:
Firstly,
It's not just about the view of the compound. It's also about dust,
air, Health & Safety, noise pollution and the combination these on
the market valuation of our properties adjacent to the workers site. A
screen is not going to block the dust, air and noise pollution, stop
the additional traffic going in and out of the site and compensate
property owners for the reduction in the value of their homes. Also we
do not know what chemicals if any are being stored, mixed, sprayed or
poured on the site and whether this could potentially be a health
hazard to our owners and visitors.
Vehicles
entering, moving around within and existing the site are kicking up
dust and goodness knows what else which is depositing itself all over
our buildings. If this operation was stopped the natural vegetation
would grow back and reduce these issues and stop this from happening. To
date the additional dust that has accumulated on the roof of our
buildings and then washed down the side by the rain means that they are
stained prematurely and are going to need to be repainted ahead of
time. Besides the immediate issue, can you tell me how the individual
Phase Presidents are planning to compensate Phase 7 owners for the cost
and inconvenience of that?
Secondly,
any threats from IRM to close the golf course because they have been
asked to move their equipment is merely speculation and nothing more
that that. All of their equipment is portable and can be easily loaded
and unloaded at another location. If IRM close the golf course they
will lose considerably more than the cost of moving their equipment to
another location. So why would they close the golf course? The answer
is they wouldn't they would sell it.
Although
we respect your views and some of the other Phase Presidents members,
we don't agree with all of the views raised by the Resort President
and Committee and neither do many of the other owners in the Sub
Communities being affected by the contractors illegal use of the adjacent land.
We
will continue to pursue a legal resolution or until a suitable
alternative is proposed by either the community or IRM. However at such
time as writing, no suitable solution has been proposed and what has
been done to date has been less than adequate.
In fact it does seems that the Phase Presidents are failing to understand the issue entirely.
LM JD
President President
Tomillo 5 Almizcle 10
We therefore seek implementation of this direction by all of the Phase Presidents so elected and stated in the May 2013 Phase Presidents Minutes that the individual representatives of the legal entities aforementioned to which they all showed their approvals in the May Phase Presidents Minutes can be enforced.
In summary our actions raised to which we require readdress are:
Firstly,
It's not just about the view of the compound. It's also about dust,
air, Health & Safety, noise pollution and the combination these on
the market valuation of our properties adjacent to the workers site. A
screen is not going to block the dust, air and noise pollution, stop
the additional traffic going in and out of the site and compensate
property owners for the reduction in the value of their homes. Also we
do not know what chemicals if any are being stored, mixed, sprayed or
poured on the site and whether this could potentially be a health
hazard to our owners and visitors.
Vehicles
entering, moving around within and existing the site are kicking up
dust and goodness knows what else which is depositing itself all over
our buildings. If this operation was stopped the natural vegetation
would grow back and reduce these issues and stop this from happening. To
date the additional dust that has accumulated on the roof of our
buildings and then washed down the side by the rain means that they are
stained prematurely and are going to need to be repainted ahead of
time. Besides the immediate issue, can you tell me how the individual
Phase Presidents are planning to compensate Phase 7 owners for the cost
and inconvenience of that?
Secondly,
any threats from IRM to close the golf course because they have been
asked to move their equipment is merely speculation and nothing more
that that. All of their equipment is portable and can be easily loaded
and unloaded at another location. If IRM close the golf course they
will lose considerably more than the cost of moving their equipment to
another location. So why would they close the golf course? The answer
is they wouldn't they would sell it.
Although
we respect your views and some of the other Phase Presidents members,
we don't agree with all of the views raised by the Resort President
and Committee and neither do many of the other owners in the Sub
Communities being affected by the contractors illegal use of the adjacent land.
We
will continue to pursue a legal resolution or until a suitable
alternative is proposed by either the community or IRM. However at such
time as writing, no suitable solution has been proposed and what has
been done to date has been less than adequate.
In fact it does seems that the Phase Presidents are failing to understand the issue entirely.
In fact it does seems that the Phase Presidents are failing to understand the issue entirely.
President President
Tomillo 5 Almizcle 10
Notice of Legal Action and key points raised by Presidents Newsletter
Notice of Legal Action and key points raised by Presidents Newsletter
We need to stress that the following comment in this month’s newsletter, “HRGR is just not suitable as a general holiday resort” is distasteful and really is no concern of the President or Committee on how individual owners decide to manage their personal investments. We strongly suggest that the President focuses on managing areas within his direct responsibility only,
In addition, the following points also show we, as Sub Community Presidents and Owners are heading in a different direction to the President and Committee:
1. Workers Compound and Golf Course
Owners
are entitled to expect what was originally sold to them. The local
authority land is, we are all now agreed, not approved to be used by any
HRGR contractor. It's
clear from this month’s president newsletter that the Committee are
continuing supporting the contractor’s illegal use of the area currently
defined as the workers compound and the Committee have no intention of
resolving this matter to the benefit of its fellow elected
representatives and owners. Furthermore, Nigel Bradbury's message could
incite angst against owners in phase 7 for seeking a resolution to an
issue which materially affects the market valuation of their properties.
Accordingly:
- Any screen existing or improved would be pointless.
- We will continue to seek legal address once the one months notice is up in two weeks time unless the Committee informs their gardeners employed under contract to HRGR to vacate this area. This will also mean that we will have to name and take proceedings against the HRGR President and individual Committee members as they are the responsible owners in charge of the Community and service providers.
- As mentioned above the Committee have been fully aware of these issues and ongoing debates however we are legally informed that we also now need to give you, as our Phase President, formal and legal notice, so that you can take this personally to the President and Committee at next weeks Committee meeting. This is hereby given and we hereby give 14 days notice that we demand that your contractors using the land authority land on phase 7 relocate to other locations by 28th August 2013. Failure to comply with this request will mean that we will seek a court injunction naming and preventing the President, individual Committee members and any contractors engaged by HRGR from having access to this site or using this site for reasons other than those previously approved by the local authority.
For
the gol company the formal Notice has been duly served. If the golf
course closes then we see this as a long term benefit to the resort as
the IRM bankruptcy will result in a fire-sale of the golf course assets
with valuations probably at give away levels. We have
estimated the operating costs of the golf course at 336K euros which
equates to 200 euros per apartment per year with no revenue expectation.
Our proposal would be to charge each owner a yearly fee of less
than 200 euros and each owner would be entitled to special golf rates
that would be significantly lower than the current tariffs. In
addition,each owner would be given special rates for their renters and
friends using the resort. There would also be public membership at
realistic competitive pricing.
At least two of our Sub Community Presidents as well as other owners are personally prepared to set up this operation as really it is a no brainer strategic solution.
At least two of our Sub Community Presidents as well as other owners are personally prepared to set up this operation as really it is a no brainer strategic solution.
If
this purchase were to go ahead at these rates then we are very
confident that a significant majority of owners would concur with the
purchase strategy. A significant number of our golfers have also
informed us that the new climate would also drive additional revenues
for the course thereby creating a lucrative cashflow stream for the
community.
This would also drive key economies of scale by having one set of contractors including gardeners, massively reduced maintenance for the course. allowing the community access to the lakes and eliminating the current no- mans land between the community and IRM.
2. Debtors and Polaris Debts
The general feedback on what has been said in this month’s Resort Newsletter is what on earth is Nigel doing?
Does
the Committee really want to define who owners rent their properties
to? What happens when parents bring put their teenager children’s and
friends, are these now looked down upon?
Surely fewer rentals will mean more debtors?
For Polaris, owners are outraged that the President and Committee are not following the defined debtor’s policy. It
is inexcusable that the Committee is prepared to force foreclosure of
individual owner’s assets and at the same time are not driving the same
process for its biggest debtor, Polaris.
Nigel
Bradbury should be giving the community of owner’s options with facts
and figures (costs) on pursuing Polaris for their debt. His newsletter
is woolly at best and sounds more like the mad rants of a dictator.
In
addition, as this approach affects the long term viability of the
resort and is a significant material change from the approved policy,
then it should be voted on by all owners.
Accordingly,
as we operate an agreed separate debtor’s process to the majority of
the community, then we will take actions to the next steps in order to
recover our sub community fees expected from Polaris. If Resortalia are
unable/unwilling to follow this direction, then we will arrange for
EGM’s to be called for in order to remove them officially and appoint
administrators that will follow the Sub Community Presidents direction.
3. Costs
We
have for a considerable period stressed that costs for the resort are
not in keeping with market rates and conditions. In addition, the lack
of basis financial information to owners is disgraceful and needs
actioning immediately.
We again call for the quarterly cash burn rate for the last 2 quarters and the next 10 quarters outlook.
4. Communications
When you were Resort
President then issues like the ones identified in this correspondence
could be discussed with hopefully mutual results produced for the
benefit of all. We believe this is no longerpossible
with the current Resort President and matters need to change quickly or
we will need to look for additional regime change.
5. Health & Safety
The Sports area has been clearly shown to be a H&S risk which is why it was announced this week to close this facility.
We
hope the Committee reviews the H&S policy and issues an update in
this month’s committee meeting to ensure compliance throughout the
resort.
6. Planning
We
do really need to understand the cost implications of any new changes
as these will not be appreciated by owners if the changes are too
complex, intrusive or costly.
L J
President President
President President
June Newsletter
June Newsletter
11 July 2013 @ 07:56
11 July 2013 @ 07:56
Hacienda Riquelme Golf Resort
President’s Newsletter – June 2013
Regrettably, this newsletter is going to concentrate on some of our financial challenges.
Your committee continue to
strive to work with Resortalia to manage costs and optimise revenue from
our debtors but are unable to report success in one key area.
Polaris World.
As we
all know, PW are in dire financial straits. In discussion with them, it
is acknowledged by PW that they are not able to pay their creditors, of
which we are one but they continue to insist that it remains their
intent to pay all our community fees. It is a fact that sales at
Terrazas de la Torre are buoyant so it just may be that they are
starting to see some net revenue which would enable them to make good on
their promise.
The word on the street is that a
number of creditors have initiated Court Action against PW whose
response appears to have been that they will see the creditor on Court –
which is likely to be in five years’ time. In the meantime, the
creditor’s account sits at the bottom of the list for any potential
payments so the net effect is that the creditor has fronted up legal
fees and taxes which have no chance of reaching any beneficial
conclusion for five years. Of course, the creditor has the feel good
feeling that they have initiated Proceedings – but that is it.
Then, of course, we have to consider that even when we win our claim, would PW have the wherewithal to pay us?
This is the position we are in.
We can either continue to communicate with PW and hope that if and when
funds become available, they will pay us rather than anyone else or we
can initiate Proceedings which may or may not yield a positive result in
five years’ time but we will have to throw good money after bad to do
it.
It may be that by taking Action
we eventually force the sale of PW’s assets here on HR – and the sooner
the better as the new owner will have to pay the last two years
community fees. If so, this is a positive reason for initiating Action.
But – it is conceivable that the banks will foreclose on those assets
long before the Courts get around to forcing their sale so we would have
incurred the legal costs for no return.
At our last committee meeting,
in applying the thoughts outlined above, the committee decided to
suspend any decision on suing PW for the debt pending the promised June
payment. We will, of course, be monitoring the situation very carefully
but can assure you that despite some opinions, we are not sitting idly
by and simply doing nothing.
Bluntly, our options are limited to:
Do we sue and send good money after bad? or
Do we continue our discussions with PW?
Throughout my business career, I
had a philosophy that I would only ever go in to a battle that I knew I
would win. If I did not think I would win, I sought an alternative
solution. In these circumstances, I think that any ultimate result would
be a pyric victory so, personally, I have no desire to commit our
community to prolonged and costly Proceedings.
Other debtors
We
used to contract a company called Community Fees Ltd to collect our UK
and Irish debt but for some time have been concerned about their
abilities. Accordingly, we have approached to alternative debt
collection partners in the UK and I am delighted to report that initial
impressions are very favourable.
In the first instance, debtors
will hear from a company called CCDR who will endeavor to negotiate
payment of the arrears including costs and surcharges. Normally we will
accept payment plans that yield the full amount of the outstanding debt
plus all current payments within an agreed period.
If the debtor will not enter in
to such an agreement or defaults on it, we use a firm of solicitors
called Welbeck Law to go to the UK Courts to gain an European Order of
Payment.
We understand that some owners
have made payments to CF Ltd which C F Ltd have not advised us about and
have not forwarded to ourselves so we have initiated Proceedings
against them through Welbeck Law. If you have made any payments to
Community Fees Ltd , please check with Resortalia to ensure that we have
received them. If we have not received them, we need evidence of the
payment so that this may be added to the claim against C F Ltd.
We make no apology for taking a
hard line with debtors and are actively considering how we may go about
forcing the sale of debtor properties. We know we are unlikely to be
paid out of a forced sale but at least the new owner will have to pay
for the last two years’ debt and we will have stopped hemorrhaging funds
as the old debtor continues to default. And, yes, we are considering PW
in this option.
MC will provide the quarterly debtor report after the July committee meeting
Cash flow
Because
of the decrease in revenue due to the increase in debtors (PW being by
far the largest) we are generating substantially less cash than was
forecast. Accordingly, we have embarked on an austerity program and are
only spending on existing contracts plus essential repairs to maintain
our security and infrastructure. Although we budgeted for 100,000€ for
long term repairs and renewals, our cash flow means we would be “unwise”
to consider committing to expense when we cannot be sure that we will
receive all our budgeted revenue.
Holidaymakers
June,
July and August are the months when those owners who rent their
apartments seek to optimize their revenue so that HR resembles a holiday
resort.
Unfortunately, too many
holidaymakers are attracted by some of the extremely low rentals that
can be had here but who do not understand that apart from the golf
course, there is little else to do. If the holidaymaker does not have
access to a hire car, their options are decidedly limited.
We have already had a serious
incident when one of a group of teenagers renting a second floor
apartment apparently tried to jump off the apartment wall. He failed to
walk away from his misguided attempt. This same group had earlier been
smashing glass on to the road and had an altercation with our security.
If you rent, please make sure
that your tenants understand the limitations of our facilities. HR was
designed as a 5* golf resort and is just not suitable as a general
holiday resort.
Our owners and renters must also
appreciate that they have no rights to enter the golf course area,
which includes the buggy paths unless they are actually playing the
course. Any unauthorised
person who is on the golf course is trespassing and there at their own
risk. If they, or worse, their child, are hit by a golf ball, they would
not be covered by insurance and the golfer would have no liability for
the injury.
Phase 7 storage area
Owners
on Phase 7 are understandably upset about how the storage area is being
used by contractors which causes them varying degrees of nuisance
depending on their position. Successive committees have recognized this
and endeavored to improve matters for Phase 7 but, regrettably have had
little success. It would appear that some Phase 7 owners believe that
the committee does not care about this issue but nothing could be
further from the truth.
The problem lies with the issue
that there is nowhere else for our contractors to use that is remotely
as effective as the storage area. The alternative areas for contractors
to use are both outside our perimeter so would need to be secured before
they could be used. One of these areas is adjacent to the pump house to
the left of the road to Sucina and the other is outside our security
fence opposite the end of Phase 6. We understand that both these areas
are owned by PW or IRM so the golf course machinery could be moved to
these areas but our gardeners would have no right to use these areas.
This would mean that we have nowhere for our gardeners to base
themselves.
Moving these operations will
involve costs which, eventually, would be passed through to us – either
in increased golf course costs or increases in gardeners’ costs.
For these reasons, the majority
of the committee has not been supportive of the idea to force the
contractors to move although we have tried to have the contractors
reduce the nuisance of the storage area and to reduce its adverse visual
impact.
Some owners on Phase 7 have now
had enough and are taking matters in to their own hands by initiating
legal action to have the contractors removed. The majority of the
committee is not prepared to support the action because they believe
that such an action would not be in the best interests of the HR
community as a whole.
We should also have a concern
that the golf course is owned by a consortium of banks who have no
choice but to take a tough commercial line. They have already told us
that they are making a loss on the HR course with no sign of an
improvement until they can source cheap water. We need to be mindful
that if we push them in to a corner they could choose to close the
course. I have had the benefit of being in communication with IRM so
have a very real fear that this could well be their response so have
this comment to say to the good folks on Phase 7: “Be careful what you
wish for”
End on a high!
I
continue to receive feedback from visiting owners that they are
agreeably surprised at how well the resort has developed since their
last stay. I am fully aware of all the areas that, ideally, we would
like to improve but have to agree that the general look of the place is
better than ever.
The fairways are recovering well
from the outbreak of alien grasses which are now dying back though the
greens have recently been treated so are not yet at their best but look
as though they will be fantastic within a week or so.
NB
President,
Hacienda Riquelme Golf Resort
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